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Today I’m joined by Ryan West, US Navy flight deck veteran, brain tumor survivor, fitness app creator and entrepreneur who believes adversity creates opportunity. Ryan, thanks for taking the time to talk with us today.
Ryan West 0:22
Absolutely, thank you for having me. It’s a real honor.
My pleasure. Thank you for your service.
Ryan, Do you have any unusual hobbies?
Ryan West 0:35
You know what? Not really. I’m an unusual person. So I got a lot of unusual things, you know, not so much unusual well, so I’m learning to play the guitar. I realize that’s not an unusual hobby. Except for the fact that I had really big fingers. So that makes it unusual to try to learn how to play but I refused to let that hold me back. It’s a work in progress actually started to learn how to play well. I bet We started to try to learn how to play last year, and I kind of got sidetracked. So looking back on it as a goal for 2020. And the other thing is the only unusual hobby, as I’m trying to be able to solve a Rubik’s cube and under five minutes, so that’s a work in progress too.
Well, that’s definitely a challenge.
Ryan West 1:20
the Rubik’s cube is all about figuring out the patterns. And so there’s a lot of YouTube stuff out there. You can actually watch the learn, but it’s definitely a challenge for sure.
Right. So when you were a kid, what did you envision yourself becoming?
Ryan West 1:36
Well, that’s a great question. Um, you know, when I was
preteens early teens, I wanted to be a professional baseball player. Certainly that wasn’t in the cards. I think I always wanted to be somebody who was trying to organize stuff, from a very young age, real to take things in a pile and Organizing into a method or a form formal presence that people, when they looked at, they immediately took notice of how organized they were, I was always the kid who, you know, when you’re playing stuff, whether it was army guys or whatever, cars, whatever, I always like to set it all up. And then I kind of got bored when I was. So I think from an early early age, I always wanted to be able to be in a role where I could organize but also try different things all the time. I’m kind of somebody who gets kind of bored after a while doing the same thing. So it’s really important for me to be able to try to throw some creativity in there too. And as far as wanting to be a doctor or a lawyer, what that was never kind of be never one thing. Just having the flexibility to try a lot of different things was really key.
Right? I understand.
So with your time in the US Navy as a flight director, was that a career that you chose, or was that an MOS that was chosen for you?
Ryan West 3:04
Yeah, so that’s a good question. So I actually had never, you know, I went into the service when I was 18. Actually, I was almost two days before my 19th birthday, I actually left for boot camp, but I never wanted to join the military. I’d never been a thought really. I love playing, you know, military sites and stuff as a kid. But as I got into high school that kind of went away, obviously, but I joined the military in the fall of 1994, primarily because I was going really nowhere fast. After high school, I wasn’t going to college. And so, excuse me, it was just one of those progressions. And when I went through boot camp, you know, I got assigned. For those who’ve been in the service, you know, your recruiter tells you a lot of stuff and a guy was sold a bill of goods as well. You know, well, you want to do this you want to work with your hands and I was really never given a job that I was going to do is kind of an odd thing. And so after boot camp, I was sent to a real little school to be stationed out in aircraft carrier. And when I got to the aircraft carrier, I was with a group of 10 people. And I was the one person out of the 10, who got kind of chosen to go into the field of ultimately becoming a flight deck director. So this crew lock really and actually, it was the best job that suited me for what I needed. Some kind of divine intervention looking back towards it, so no, never really assigned that until I got to the ship.
So did that have any effect on your health?
Ryan West 4:38
Yeah, so you mean being a flight deck director?
Ryan West 4:43
Yeah, so I mean, being a flight deck director, you know, ultimately, you work your way up to that point and it’s, it’s very grueling, but it really is my really my everybody does in the service. You really make a career out of it. Definitely ground forces who are who put a lot of time their family director You know, you’re, you’re on your way. But it really does take a strenuous effect on your body and there’s virtually no sleep, you’re on a shoestring budget to get things done. And so you know, I can go on and on, but ultimately what what really happened for my health was had nothing to do with being in the Navy. But when I was stationed on the ship in the summer of 96, I started to notice some really odd things going on with my body. And I was really strong. I was getting stronger. I’d always been somebody kind of worked out. But I was noticing that when I would wake up in the morning, the best way I can explain it to you felt like I just worked out. I wouldn’t get sore. It was a really odd scenario. And this really started in in the summer of 96. I’m actually writing about, about my experience from 1994 to 2000. about public blogger, you asked this called the episode Five was called the bench pressing officer. And I was so strong in 1986. You know, when you watch the NFL combine now they put such a premium on bench pressing 225 pounds, and that’s kind of the goal. How many times can you do? You know, I was able to bench press three times, almost 30 times, I was able to do these really crazy things. And I just thought, Well, I’m just getting really strong, you know, from working out. I wasn’t necessarily I didn’t look like Arnold or Arnold Schwarzenegger or a bodybuilder per se just was getting bigger, same height, just bigger. And then it kind of progressed into the fall of 1997. Where to three weeks been my actually my bottom job started to grow out. So I went into the service with a normal overbite, just a normal bite like you’d have now and most of the audience but in three weeks my actually bought them drug from an overbite. So stuff going on, my hands are getting bigger, the head was getting bigger. To sum this up the Reader’s Digest version I’m
ultimately diagnosed after the military,
with a pituitary brain tumor and the disease that affiliated with it. It’s called achromatic. And so it’s a form of giantism. It’s not defined as giantism. But it’s similar to what honored design had some of these other people. Now, I didn’t have the height part of it. But I certainly had a lot of the freaky sensors that went with it. And there’s a whole story about Scott, but it’s a interesting thing when your body changes, grows and does these things, psychologically, the tricks that plays on your mind so it changes how it worked. And so I went through it for a while, and some other stuff, but it’s weird because it’s, you have some real oddities that come out of the story, some real comical stuff, but then you also have some kind of dark stuff that goes with it just because of what you’re dealing with. but, you know, it’s led me to where I am today and I’m very fortunate, actually glad into the experiences
Yeah, I don’t even know how to process that right now.
Ryan West 8:06
Well, it’s funny I got it because, you know, I think it’s important for me to face it, you know, I, I spare you know, I was in 2000 I had a brain tumor when I had the surgery. So I had surgery and the tumor was the size of a women and your pituitary gland is actually right behind your forehead. And believe it or not, a lot of people have that tumor when he’s had an autopsy done, but they don’t manifest themselves. And so that was what happened with mine. Of course, I’m always a special case, it’s a really rare thing to have six off the top of my head. I’m being a bad person here. But it’s rare. When it happens. And I can see it on other people. I need it. We can point out where those are, but I spent a long time hiding from it. Long time, you know, I didn’t like people taking my picture and like all this, and when I made the decision to kind of, you know what I really want to be an entrepreneur. I’ve always you know, again, gravitate towards his organization, which to me, that’s what being an entrepreneur is authentic. It was one of the things when I make this decision, and I do it in wellness and health, I’m going to have to really put myself out there. And this amazing thing happened, Scott, you know, two years ago, I started posting pictures of myself how I looked, and guess what happened? Nothing because nobody cared. So your perception was a real eye opening thing that your perception of what people think of you is usually never anywhere close to what they actually do. Nobody could care less. In fact, they embraced it. And so I spent this time really being a weirdo about it when I actually could have, you know, started this career a lot sooner than I’m trying to embark on. And so it’s a weird dynamic, how life works and the oddities that go along with it, you know.
isn’t it though? So? What, just out of curiosity, would your recovery process look like?
Ryan West 9:53
Yeah, so that’s it, no question. So when it up so actually, when I was diagnosed, I was actually so
And so and I really love that groups associations are coming because they can really diagnosis disease. So what really tipped off the disease in the beginning, or one of the ways that it can is larger spacing between your geeks. And so you got to understand, you know, when I was in the military, I didn’t ever get braces or anything. So my teeth were pretty, pretty normal. That was a big thing with my mom and you know, your teeth and da da da. But when this happened, that was really the starting point towards like, just stuff you know, a normal size hat didn’t fit anymore, you know, you hear about barry bonds and all this up and, and, and, and that’s what I had, I had a natural going through my body. And so it’s it’s one of those things where it just was wreaking havoc on my body. So in layman’s terms, it’s called your IGF level, your growth hormone level. You know, there’s a lot of people out there there were that are just trying to get growth hormone on the black market or wherever I had more than I knew what to do with and so a normal growth hormone level for a human being is between 250 and 500. And what my height in mind was at 1800 so I’m lucky I’m he was even alive. Yeah, I mean, if you think about that’s enough to kill a small animal and so what was going to happen is ultimately that tumor was going to explode. And that’s what has has happened to people before. And so the thing was, with this type of brain tumor, it’s it’s very rarely almost I think, 99% it’s not cancers which is a good thing. And let me let me make sure I stay for anybody out there who there are some brain tumor survivors out there. People are going with it right now. horrific tumors, just screws with your vision, your hearing your bowels is incredible stuff. Mine was more of, you know, I felt like Frankenstein really the way it changed me. And so the process was I had a brain the brain tumor removed. You know, I’ve had numerous MRI the tumor surgery is only about two hours, but you’re in recovery for five days. How it works is they actually go through your nose canal to take the tumor out. And believe it or not, they pull it out and then cut skin as your stomach and they pack that into your mouth into your nose. And they do that so spinal fluid can’t fall out. So basically, you’re my nose look like I got punched in the face by Muhammad Ali 100 times and so it’s just this weird funny. And the surgery part of it is its own thing and it when you go in there and you have brain surgery, it’s weird for me. I put my hands in my doctors trust who’s still my doctor, my neurosurgeon and so I didn’t look back and I think that helped me. And you know after the surgery, they test you to see if you still have high elevated buggles everything with the pituitary tumor is done through your blood. And so I had a neurosurgeon do the surgery, but then the doctor I’m really closely related to is my endocrinologist and an endocrinologist is a doctor of the blood and and not a pathologist but they help people who phonologists work with people who have diabetes, that’s a symptom of what I have. So, I, my real doctor that I see most of the time is every two weeks and there’s lots of medications. So after the surgery, they test you to see if your growth hormone level is still high. You know, the theory is they take the tumor out now, Where’s it at what’s going on? Well, my levels are still really high, which meant that the tumor had been there long enough or something had manufac manifested itself were still cells of the tumor and the soft tissue, something was up that just didn’t show up on an MRI. And so I was given the opportunity to have Gamma Knife surgery, radiation, excuse me, it’s called gamma radiation. They’ve actually changed the name now it’s a it was a very barbaric portrait experience. What they do is basically they both have a metal frame, seven inches by 10 inches to your head. They have two screws that they literally drill in with a drill to the front of your forehead. You can feel the screws going into your bone And then the you’re in the back and you were it’s very medical and you wear this metal fringe can Google it and see people who have an eye on it looks just like a job. And you wear that and get security into a huge machine, and they can move your head around.
It’s very torturous, it’s very painful, they
while you’re doing it
didn’t work. But it makes for a really good story, especially when you’re trying to you know, just people get really enthralled by hearing the process I I come to find that they’ve changed that process. So the other part of what I had to do was I wanted really it was really important to me to have my job fixed and so I had to have braces put on for two years and then I had to have reconstructive jaw surgery and that process was they cut out the back and bones and my bottom john they said my job back so when I heard your counterpart is Wire just is di wires that I can relate and it sucks. And it’s the whole process. And so, you know, it was important for me to get that fixed because not only did it hurt, it was just kind of painful as like your head of a door was off, if that makes sense for a long time for me, so when I would break down, my front teeth wouldn’t touch anything, it would just be air, because my bottom teeth would be in front of it, it was just a kind of a weird thing. So you just really learned how to chew and everything’s different. So to go back to where I kind of was normal, it was really important to me and so that’s why I’m always with people who want to have surgeries, you know, if they cut cosmetically, I’m not a fan of doing plastic surgery, but if you feel like you need something that’s going to help you get through and make you have more confidence. I’m all for it. It’s that I think that’s just from my personal experience but so you know, the surgery stopped in 2002 and now it’s just been medication, lot of doctor visits, I got decimated I’ve been to the doctor over 700 times I have to do multiple shots every Mark water pills, but you just deal with it. You know the one thing about that I’ve learned through the recovery process, the whole process really is and I didn’t realize this till later on, was I just naturally started to look at things half full. It was no longer. Yeah, this sucks. Let’s just focus on that. Instead, it’s focused on what we can get out of it. And that’s really what it was. And that’s carried over. And I think there’s two things that are the most important thing you can do through any type of medical no matter what it is. If you stay positive, you’re going to heal yourself faster. I absolutely believe that now, are there cases where the disease gets the best of us? Sure. The positivity is so active, huge part of it, keeping your attitude positive. Second thing is you just look at it. from a standpoint of, this is what we got, we’re going to deal with it, you’ll be just fine. So that was a really long explanation of my recovery process. I apologize. That’s really how it went.
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I like the indepth details and I totally agree on the positivity in the mindset. And on that note, what type of characteristics do you feel about needed to overcome a misfortune?
Ryan West 17:03
Well, yeah, that’s the key really. Persistence and resilience are the two things you know, I, the big thing, I’ve really pushed into this whole wellness entrepreneur experience, and I wanted to essentially get a podcast on and then I wanted to do a fitness app. And then I wanted this I stumbled onto this last one, it’s all full. And I want to take credit for that I really always was thinking about this. I wanted to, to show people or you know, have people recognize when you go through adversity, you have these special skills that you either you acquire them or or you have them all the time he didn’t know. Um, so to answer your question, the real two key things were, for me more important for attitude work, resilience and persistence. You know, not being afraid to, you know, go to the doctor too much when you get for a second business. You play a waiting game, and so I’m not worried getting down about That stuff or not being afraid to try different things and or going back to the well a few times being persistent, persistent to do that. It’s really served me well and, and there’s a lot of people out there who have got those skills and skills in a way higher level than the readers don’t know it. But here’s the great explanation or analogy that I can give to you. So if you’re on one side of a river, right, and not you’re on the side you’re on right now is the side where you decide that you have to get over this raging river, right? And it’s going to be really hard. It’s going to suck and you’re gonna have all these these these problems can move your way across it because that raging river is your adversity. So people get across it. Some some do it through sheer luck or some do it through sheer determination, whatever it is, they get to the other side. When they get to the other side, they stop. But what I like to tell people that’s just the starting point, okay, you made it through that now you owe it to yourself until those around you to To cook what you learned and become an entrepreneur, go back and help other people, there’s all these opportunities because you have a story and storytelling is such a key part of, you know, podcast, you, you guys are well into your hundred episodes here. And so it’s just such an advantage when you are cool relate to, to going through something difficult. And so I think that, you know, it’s tough and it’s hard sometimes to realize that you have the skill certainly was for me, so I can relate to that too. I waited well over 16 years to really figure that part of it out. But it’s a really fun chat on tap superhero. part of us that we have and, and you know, versus a lot of things. It’s, it’s cancer. It’s it assumes it’s poverty, it’s abuse, it’s childhood stuff, it’s so but there are so many other people out there who are going through it, who could learn from you and that’s really what it’s all about.
Yeah, so that’s pretty involved.
Can I ask you what type of goal setting techniques that you used?
Ryan West 20:16
Yeah, well, so my goal for a person,
a US I have this formula kind of used ever since I really got, you know what I think I was kind of like that even before I was a terrible student. I’m not terrible. I just didn’t care. I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I didn’t really know what I wanted to do till like stumbled on to this entrepreneur thing to be honest. I mean, I have a full time job to, you know, in the midst of trying to do all this but my goal setting product processes, I have a daily goal, I have weekly goals, monthly goals, and then I have a yearly goal. And then I have three year goals. And the three year goals are actually more detail than than the weekly goals. One of the things I read I found this real good article I wish I would have I wish I would have remember who who who wrote it was a blog. And in that it was about this person I can’t remember the female in her male who took this launch date was this individual who was a retired millionaire. And the article is so simple which are usually the best ones I guess. And it was basically this millionaire was like listen, you don’t know what you want to do. You’re not going to figure out what you want to do. But when you can go write out a three year a five year plan and was as much detail as possible just start writing and right and and get all your stuff down. You’re going to start to craft out this story of where you want to be over the next couple years, then you can work backwards and so that’s really helped me is to do that I made a ton of mistakes as I’ve got into this podcasting and fitness app more more negative than positive. I haven’t even made
very little money so far, which is really what I’m trying to go for.
Yes. I want to help everybody. But I want to get some financial added this as well so that I can get time back to go home. So that’s a real good piece of it. And so that’s just starting to pick up for me. And it’s really, because I’m not afraid to go back in and retool the plan and the goals. But if I am not doing something on a daily basis, then I feel like I’m not contributing to this, this goal that I set for myself, which was to really, each day get better at this, meet more people bring more people into the app, and you know, it’s a day it’s a full time job. And so I’m really amazed when people say they don’t set goals and they are successful. That’s certainly not how I can work. But for me, again, long winded way of saying I like to write everything out and then I work backwards and I figure out what I can manipulate. I’m huge believer in miscellaneous time. So when I do When I look at something, I always look at where the end time is, and then work my way back to figure out where I can move stuff or ask stuff or do stuff twice together to kill
that timeframe to free up other time.
Right. I like that philosophy a lot. I think I’m going to start applying that to what I’m doing.
Ryan West 23:19
Well, I thought it was so interesting because this individual who was million leave a true open one person wrote the blog. It was about that.
They thought, Well, that sounds great. But when they went back and tried it, they found all these opportunities they were missing. And that’s the biggest thing, especially when you jump into this stuff, any entrepreneur thing is, you get everything. It’s so sad. You know, you’re drinking from a firehose, for lack of a better term. And so being able to close that down, you know, you hear that analogy all the time when a quarterback really hasn’t figured out the game slows down. It’s the same if that was the same thing for me. It was slowing things down. It’s still fast. The time and I bet this is how it’s going to be. But once you can just pick one piece at a time and put it into a process. You know, I’ve been on a few masterminds and hearing what some of these folks are able to do just to automate their social media. And their, the way they do their accounting. It’s fascinating. And it just there’s endless amounts of ways that you can make it easier. But if you don’t have a plan of where you want to get you can’t do that.
Oh, yeah, exactly. Can you can you tell me why you feel becoming an entreprenuer? When you have a lot of adversity, why that’s the greatest thing ever?
Ryan West 24:46
Yeah, I think Well, let me sum it up for you. So the absolute best thing about all of this is when I am part of an interview, we bring people on who so my podcast is called revealing alien validity. Australia, we bring people on, you know, they have their legs blown off. I’ve had people who’ve had their legs, their blades went off and lost their eyes 50% of their body burned. lost loved ones, multiple cancer survivors, meningitis so bad that they lost their arms and their legs, their their, their, their legs, just incredible stuff, unbelievable. Poverty, and all of them, almost all of them to a tee say, yeah, you know, but I wouldn’t change it, I stay where I am. And at first my cash that is, so it was just so profound to me. And so when I’m able to interview these people, and a lot of them haven’t come on and talked about some of this stuff in detail, and they’re a little nervous, and by the end, I am more worried than they are but they just let loose. That’s the greatest feeling ever because you I think, just help that person, get something off your chest and to you’re going to help a bunch of other people in a perfect world, right? We all want a million downloads within to that episode. And that’s really what it’s all about helping other people now. Franco back a financial part of it. So that’s part of it, whether people want it to be or not, so that you can help more people and that’s that’s really the goal. So but the the adversity part of it the reason it fits so well is because, you know, the storytelling and the the ability to relate to people when they come on is is amazing in the world. I mean, if you look at the trends of where we’re going with with creating your own digital course, or podcasting, or creating an app or speaking or digital course, whatever, you know, it’s so geared around selling your experience. And so I think more and more and more people want to save time and here or by what other people’s experiences and to help them and so on it. I really believe that people who’ve been through adversity, make the best entrepreneurs, you know, this is Number for somebody who’s just getting into it in the last two years, but still, I really believe that those skill sets went very well. To this you don’t you know, you’ve been through you don’t get to up you don’t get to down you understand what it means to be disciplined to go to the doctor all the time or what you know, you grew up with nothing and, and so you really know how to charge through the waters. And I think that’s one of the key things and I know this sounds like such a cliche, but you know, seeing calm through all this and just, you know, the three C’s calm, cool and collected, as my mom used to say is very important part of it.
Right and having the tenacity to push through getting kicked in the teeth.
Ryan West 27:42
is part of this. I mean, she like,
like trying to break you to be a speaker, right? There’s all kinds of stuff out there just like there is for anything, you know, everybody will tell you how you can be a podcast, right? But the reality is until you kind of jump into it, screw it up and figure it out. You don’t really know who’s speaking The same way oh, well, you know why this course will show you how to do this, do this do this. Because speaking is a great example. It’s an you just got to call and be told no 100 times 500 times before you get the one. Yeah. But not everybody’s going to do that. Well for me, yours, you know, I’m already to the point where I can’t, you know, I’m not having a tumor pulled out of my head, you know, or somebody could use another example. Is it going to bed hungry? Or is it being abused. So when you can put it into those terms, it makes it so much easier. In fact, in fact, it becomes really a kind of a game, I’m not going to be and I think that’s the other thing, especially close to adversity is a lot of them have that tenacity of just, I’m not going to prove them wrong. I’m just gonna do it till I do it. And then that’s when you’re really dangerous when you can combine the creativity with the drive and just full force 100 miles an hour and you’re going to accomplish it. You’re gonna get it done. It might not be overnight, but you’re going to be a successful entrepreneur, you’re gonna have your time back. And you know, for anybody who’s doing this whole entrepreneur thing, I think the most successful one say, which really dawned on me, Look, I know the money’s great. I just want the time. I want my time to do stuff. But look what look you know, like Kobe Bryant, Brian. stuff happened personally for me. I’ve had some people around me were young, the past you just don’t know. And so why not? Work your rear end off to try to make it work? I’ve already been through the, through the swamp, so to speak. So go for it.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, get it while you can get it right.
Ryan West 29:37
So if there was one piece of advice you could give to a budding entrepreneur, who’s doing their first launch or just getting into the game? What would it be? Yeah.
Ryan West 29:53
One thing with the main thing for me with the just don’t, don’t be afraid. You’re gonna make the Don’t be afraid to fail. I know again, that sounds like cliche, but I just I think people say it, sometimes they don’t mean it. Don’t be afraid you’re gonna have to put time in it, you’re gonna have to put some money in it, you may not get it back right away. But if you believe in what you’re doing, and you believe in the story, and you believe you’re, you’re in it for all the right reasons, it’s gonna work out I just fully believe in that notion, my mom is always telling you, you can do whatever you want to do if you put your mind to it. And that is the truth. I mean, if you look at the most successful people in the world, for the most part, they, they just did not give up and they just kept at it. They kept pushing, they kept going. And that’s really all you can do. It’s not, it’s not easy. It’s not especially when you’re working. If you have a full time job, you’re trying to do it, but the satisfaction of I’m telling you, I don’t know about you, no better feeling to put together a podcast and then see people downloading and listening it for one. But when you create something in somebody and somebody becomes part of that community and buys into it, that’s a huge thing. And that’s how I have my fix. Stop, you know, we’re adding more subscribers every day as the most awesome thing, because you put this hard work into it, especially in that, you know, really tried to create an app where people would be able to work out in an easier way and to see people into that really cool thing. So I, again, long winded but just don’t be afraid because you’re gonna, you’re gonna screw stuff up. There’s even what’s the most perfect plan out there. It’s not going to be tailored to you, and you’re gonna have to make some tough decisions, and some of them aren’t going to work out the way you think they should.
Absolutely. So are you working on anything new besides the podcast and the app right now?
Ryan West 31:36
Yeah, so what Christian gap and so the app is called fitness resistance or it’s called resistance assistance, fitness media, resistance band training. And then we also have a cardio Parson portion. Just 20 minutes of cardio, no equipment, and it’s funny. I’ve been you know, I’m a big advocate for running but I started doing these cardio things on telling you it is such a different workout. I love it. It’s so much easier my body but cash you wore out. And it’s so easy to give you just don’t even use any equipment. Go do 100 squats for your audience, if you just with nothing, just go do it and see how easy it is go do 50 pushups. I mean, it’s not as easy as you think. So that’s a big part of the push for 2020. The other big part is we created a course we’re creating a course called adversity University. And that comes out in late March. You can find that in website by going to live but it’s a basically a short course. We have five modules where we go through pulling out where people can come on and pull out what they’ve been through how to create your story, how to create a plan, the entrepreneur opportunities are out there just just a precursor to getting them in the game. You know, one of the things that really helped me, which is really where this comes from, is I there’s so many different places you can go right? Well, do I go on Spotify? Or do I post on Spotify? Do I use Lipson or do I not use Lipson which app developer What how do i do social media etc, you know, it’s endless. So trying to just get out the basics that will get you started and getting people their feet now on their feet on the ground. The other thing I really want to do with that in with the fitness app is create a community. I’m really big on when you get into these things, you know how many people that you can meet through the process. We don’t have to pay $1,000 go meet him at a conference is really key. I’m a big believer in saving time that way too. And so that’s the other thing, university University of first classes begin a march. And I think we’ll roll out three or four more. And by you know, four or five weeks, you’re able to have a real good foundation of how you can get yourself started.
Oh, that’s awesome. Where can listeners find you?
Ryan West 33:44
Yeah, so I appreciate it. So if you go to Ryan West dot live, that’s our main website and that’s where we have a podcast and adversity University stuff on their podcast is on Spotify and apple and Stitcher, the main three I heart and then fitness is fitness me.net that’s fitness Made Easy dotnet and we have all our apps up on there you can download the app right through their Google Play or the Apple App Store more stuff about me and kind of gnarly pictures and yeah it’s it’s cool stuff man I you know, it’s funny I didn’t it didn’t dawn on me till mid year Mike you know, I should really be trying to go on other podcasts talking about this just to meet what other podcasts are doing. I want to you know, I really like the way you do your format are kind of more storytelling you know, people come on, we just let them go. And and I interject so being able to come on and talk about different points of my process has been a cool way of doing it. So I just want to tell you, thank you for allowing me to do that.
Oh, no, thank you so much for coming in and sharing your insights with us today. So really, actually really inspiring. I enjoyed it a lot.
Ryan West 34:48
Well, I appreciate I appreciate you having me on and tell your audience you know, if you think Through you know, any type of adversity you know it’s not always easiest to get out of it and it’s in sometimes it takes you a while once you’re out of it to realize what you have just know you know you got a special gear not that other people don’t have but you were able to expose your worse and it’s you know you owe it to yourself to put it to use whether it’s helping other people or whether it’s creating a whole new life for yourself so there’s a we got through adversity checklist stuff out on the website RyanWest.live Go check it out.